Phone interview with
Paul McCoy, lead singer, of 12 Stones
September 10, 2004


Photo by Sarah
Smith
12 Stones is an amazing band that has just released their sophomore album on Wind-up records, Potter's Field. The band has been shrouded with questions on their faith and purpose. Paul was very candid with us and told us the facts. Ever wonder what to say when someone asks if they are a Christian band? Wonder who 12 Stones supports...Bush or Kerry?
Dennis: Hey, Paul,
it's great to get a chance to talk with you. Happy Belated
Birthday.
Paul: Hey thanks man. Yeah I
just woke up about 20 minutes ago haha.
Dennis: Yep, typical rock star
fashion there haha. So how old are you now?
Paul: Yeah, I turned 23.
Dennis: Well, I was
told we had limited time so I'll jump right in here. We actually
named Potters field as the album of the month on our site.
We were lucky enough to have gotten a prerelease about a month
ago and wow I was impressed! How has the reaction and sales been the first two weeks out?
Paul: The first week we did
about 30,000 and then the second week was about 14,000. So 44,000
in just 2 weeks which is pretty great for us. The reaction has
been really great. The albums only been out two weeks and every
night at shows people are screaming and singing the words. So,
it's getting bigger and better.
Dennis: Man I hate to
even ask this as only my second question but I might as well hit it head
on...There is a rumor floating around that apparently
some Christian bookstores have removed the cds from their shelves.
The reason is apparently a member used the word ass.
Have you heard anything about this?
Paul: Yeah we have
heard and it's true. In our thank yous in our liner notes Eric put
to the road crew 'you kick a**.' It wasn't meant derogatory or
offensive but that is the way it was taken. Some people said that
isn't Godly enough for their stores. It's a bummer but you know.
Dennis: The cd deals with a lot of
relationship type issues and even a track “Photograph” dealing with
suicide. Could you give us
the background of that song and what message do you want to convey to
those that are in the mode of depression?
Paul: Yeah, really the song is
about a friend of my sisters who after a short relationship wanted a
girl to go back out with him. To make a long story short, she
repeatedly told him no because the relationship wasn't what she wanted.
He went and picked her up from work one day and asked one more time.
She told him no so he pulled out a gun and shot himself right in front
of her. Where he killed himself was in his neighborhood street
right in front of his own brother while he was playing basketball.
So, for me it was a very personal song but at the same time there are so
many songs that make you feel sorry for those that commit suicide saying
oh we feel so bad and how could we have not known. For us it is like how
weak is that. I mean you can end it so easy without any care for
those you leave behind. Before I play this song every night I
always remind people no matter how bad people feel imagine how bad
people feel that you leave behind. I mean they have to think of
that person leaving over something so small and trivial. For those
that listen to that song, if it doesn't help you not think about
suicide, know that you shouldn't give up on yourself and that's part of
life. Even those that have a million dollars or a million friends
have bad days. It is about no being a coward and getting through
it and not giving up.
Dennis: Man that is so crazy. It goes well into the next question.
On your site you talk about how much music is out now spreading
hate. What are your
thoughts on the influence of that type of music to teens?
Paul: I think people in general
are very influenced by music and those they see on TV. I think that you
know, everybody has to have their own take on life. But people
like Eminem and those guys talking about hate and kill this. You
know there might be a time where a song like that might make you feel
better. But every track on your album shouldn't be like that you know
what I mean. We aren't here to change the world. We are
musicians and we work really hard and are away from our families every
day. We just try to be positive and remind people that today might
be bad but tomorrow is another day you can control. I'm not gonna
put anybody down for what they write but I dont agree with a lot of
songs that are out. I mean if it was your kid or nephew that was
listening to those songs and developing a different view on life because
of it. Music affects that.
Dennis: Yeah I agree totally.
Knowing your thoughts on negativity and wanting to be a positive
influence what message do you want to convey with Potter's Field?
Paul: More than anything we want
people to enjoy the music and let the message sink in. I think
that if it helps them on a spiritual level and they can relate to the
new songs that helps them on that level then that's awesome. But
if they also listen and relate on a level that isn't spiritual is still
cool. Just to have people be able to enjoy the album and relate.
I want people to put the album in and make them feel good on a bad day.
From our first album , we had a lot of things we wanted to change.
We wanted obviously more guitar heavy and add more harmony and screams
you know. We wanted to grow and be more mature with a more
developed record and I think we have done that. We hope people
enjoy the album like we do.
Dennis: Yeah the focus and
maturity is so obvious throughout the album. We mentioned all
those things in our review as well.
Paul: Thanks man very much.
We really wanted to capture that. We really take pride in our live
show and want the crowd to be into it. WE wanted to take that
feeling and put it in our record.
Dennis: I have had several
fans want me to ask you this. After being featured on
Evanescence's album that has now sold almost 13 million copies, how has
this helped speed up the success of 12 Stones? And are their any other
collaborations with them in the future?
Paul: Uh, no, not at this
point. The first time we did that song it was very spontaneous and
a last minute type thing. They are cool kids but very busy.
It obviously helped being on about 14 million records around the world.
If people are interested they then look it up and check us out.
This is my heart and soul and I had a great time doing that but this is
where I rest every night. I want to take time and help my project
for now. I would love to collaborate but you know for now this is my
baby haha.
Dennis: Haha. You guys are
out on the road now with Tantric right?
Paul: Yeah tonight is our third
show with them.
Dennis: How's that going on what
are plans after this tour?
Paul: Yeah, we have a few more
weeks of this left. Tomorrow we will be out at Disney World, Magic
Kingdom and stuff like that. Doing that and staying busy and
hoping to his some big tours in the fall. We have been doing a lot
with Puddle of Mud, Three Days Grace, Three Doors Down and Nickleback.
Staying busy will be the key. We have a lot of options for the
fall but we are still working on it.
Dennis:
I don’t know if you are aware but we are a Christian site and
we review all types of music from Mushroomhead to 12 Stones to Pillar
and also interview that spectrum as well.
We respect your guys stance and placed your music review in both
the secular and Christian areas of the site due to a wide acceptance in
both genres.
Paul: That's cool man.
Dennis: As you know most
people know you
are a
professing Christian and you guys tour with with both secular and
Christian bands. But it seems like
every day someone starts a thread on your own forum asking if you guys
are a Christian or secular band. I really don't like the whole
labeling thing and I think I already know what your answer will be.
What would you like people to say when you hear them label you as
one or the other?
Paul: Yeah haha. I think people
should say, "Why does it matter!" For us Christian band,
secular band, we just try to be positive. Not everyone in this
band is a Christian. It's hard to put us in a Christian band
category. I mean I grew up Southern Baptist and a couple of the
guys grew up in very religious homes so a lot of the lyrics and
undertones are obviously spiritual oriented and very Christian based.
I mean that's the way I write and question things. That's the way
I word things and that's the way it comes across. But at the same
time Jesus hung out with prostitutes, liars and thieves.
Dennis: Yep, he wasn't hanging out
with the religious!
Paul: Yeah you know what I mean!
I mean I'm not knocking anyone in church. I grew up my whole life
in church and I think its very important for people. Especially
right now with our country that we stay focused in our beliefs and the
faith developed. At the same time, we aren't here to change the
world. That's something that if people feel led to do then that's
what people need to do. But as for us we are musicians. I am
a 23 yr old kid in a rock band. I dont have all the answers and
dont like being in the limelight for people that are questioning
religion. I dont feel I am in a position to show them any better.
I am still growing and learning just like they are. If our music
helps you spiritually then that is amazing but if it helps you from a
secular label then that is awesome to. It's about the music for us
and it's about where we are and how we grow. If people put too
much on where we are spiritually then it takes away from where we are
musically and as people. We are young and learning and
trying but we are not spotlight Christians. I wish some people
would cut us some slack you know. We aren't prophets. We
aren't here to stop the antichrist from coming haha. It's like a
fingerprint and not all of us are alike. We cant please everyone.
Dennis: Well Paul, thanks so much
for the time and hopefully we will run into you one of these days.
So I gotta ask this as a last question. Every band out there seems
to be bashing Bush. Who are you guys supporting, Bush or Kerry?
Paul: Im thinking right now you
know its funny how everyone is jumping on this anti-Bush band wagon.
I think everyone is just trying to be cool. You know I'm glad I
live in a country were I can wake up every day and play rock music haha.
You know if everyone wants to be on that band wagon...oh well. But
is someone breaks into my house like they did the US then I'd do the
same thing. And I respect Bush for the way he stand for himself.
I dont think either candidate is absolutely amazing but I am definitely
a Bush guy!
Dennis: Man that's awesome haha.
He was just in our town on Monday.
Paul: I think its so funny
everyone is doing this Rock Against Bush, and I'm like yeah whatever.
You know I would like to see some of these people try to be President.
There is a reason we are on tour buses and not in the White House hahaah.
Dennis: hahah. Well man its
been a pleasure! Thanks for being so candid with us and look forward to
getting this on the site.
Paul: Yeah man thanks a lot.
Its been cool!